Help with w2w jumping - Archive through July 27, 2007 hey i was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on jumping w2w I can do it most times but i cant get a good pop off the wake sometimes and it messes me up when im tryin to learn grads What i do is cut about 20 feet outside the wake and start cutting back in in a chair stance and when i get to the wake and push off with me knees